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"They say it's a dark pattern. That's a cowardly, lose-win way of doing business." Jay Tan talks growing to $30k/mo.IH+ Subscribers Only

Jay Tan was coasting on $30k MRR when X started charging a prohibitive price point for their API: $42k/mo. So he shut it down and started working on Zylvie.

The obvious takeaway here is that platform risk is real and you shouldn't be dependent on any one service... but Jay took a lot more away from his journey than that.

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    Curiously, who is "they"? I did some searching and I didn't find anyone claiming that asking for a card up front is a dark pattern, except a Reddit thread where it seems most people disagreed.

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      Mostly users, but of course they would say that.

      However, there was also a divided discussion on this topic that I posted on Indie Hackers about a year ago:

      https://www.indiehackers.com/post/to-ask-for-credit-card-upfront-or-not-why-not-both-4d49353477

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    Finally, someone speaking some truth! What a great interview! Thank you Indiehackers for interviewing this man! : )

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      Thank you for reading, Craig.

      I try to be as candid and authentic as possible. 😉

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    what a title of post bro✔

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    Cool concept 😉

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    Very cool, but no explanation of the pizza? Is it a hobby? Inquiring minds want to know!

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      lol, fair question! 😂

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      That was just a random picture I took on a visit to Chicago in the summer of 2022!

      I've always heard about Chicago deep dish pizza, and I finally got to try it.

      Like I said, smelling the roses in between bouts of running my business. 😉

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        Chicago deep dish does not disappoint!

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